in article isng70d0hlbd0tqipvijfpklfa59fjnsa6@4ax.com, Aratzio at
aratzio@lalalala.com wrote on 04/10/2004 2:01 PM:
> So I shall post as I see fit, please stick around, this can be fun.
Post how ever you wish. Does not bother me in the least.
":^) ®
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in article isng70d0hlbd0tqipvijfpklfa59fjnsa6@4ax.com, Aratzio at
aratzio@lalalala.com wrote on 04/10/2004 2:01 PM:
> So I shall post as I see fit, please stick around, this can be fun.
Post how ever you wish. Does not bother me in the least.
":^) ®
Andrew - Supernews <andrew+nonews@supernews.com> wrote
news:slrnc7eft0.27sf.andrew+nonews@trinity.superne ws.net
> On 2004-04-10, Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid> wrote:
>> Noone's ever seen Mike use words like f-ck:
>>> From: "Mike" <n@way.com>
>>> Newsgroups: alt.current-events.net-abuse.spam
>>> Subject: I will spam who the fuck I want!
>>> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 06:08:27 -0600
>>> Message-ID: <vvdc9k2jppik63@corp.supernews.com>
>>> Fuck all of you I will spam any new group or email I
>>> wish and there is nothing you can do about it.
>> Looks like Supernews makes errors from badly configured
>> filters or logs a lot. Result: falsely accused and banned
>> paying customers.
> I admit that, not being the abuse person here, I have no
> idea why the user in question was blocked in the first
> place. But it wasn't anything to do with the above post,
> which is dated some months after the original block.
How can you say that when Jeremy says it does:
////////////////////////////////////////////////
in article 40687b14.825.3a0@supernews.com,
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at jnixon@supernews.com
wrote on 03/29/2004 11:44 AM:
These were posted via our servers, and I've verified
that they were not forgeries. I'll not comment on them,
I think they speak for themselves.
> From: "Mike" <n@way.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.current-events.net-abuse.spam
> Subject: I will spam who the fuck I want!
> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 06:08:27 -0600
> Message-ID: <vvdc9k2jppik63@corp.supernews.com>
> Fuck all of you I will spam any new group or email I wish
and there is
> nothing you can do about it.
> Mike
> * Logo Design *
> Put some fun in your next logo!
> Site at: http://www dot artistmike dot com
> mike @ artistmike dot com
> From: "Mike" <n@way.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.stop.spamming
> Subject: Re: Spambutcher
> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 05:39:55 -0600
> Message-ID: <vvfv031j8oevf9@corp.supernews.com>
> Yes I can use this newsgroups as a write-only medium.
> Fuck off mud puppy.
////////////////////////////////////////////////
Jeremy from Supernews says he has VERIFIED these posts are
not forged and that they speak for themselves. So he means
Supernews has proof they were posted by Mike. He means they
are related to the reason for blocking. But you from
Supernews say something different. What is going on at
Supernews Abuse, Andrew??
WJ
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In article <BC9DAABF.F2AC6%combaticus@combiworld.com>,
combaticus@combiworld.com says...
oh, now you *are a troll
> in article 4078526f.10ee.205@supernews.com, Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at
> jnixon@supernews.com wrote on 04/10/2004 1:09 PM:
> > Combaticus <combaticus@combiworld.com> wrote:
> >> I know for a fact that "Mike" of "ArtistMike.com" sent you an email
> >> informing you that you could post your evidence in the newsgroup. He sent
> >> that email from his domain. It was a real email from "Mike" of
> >> ArtistMike.com. You have yet to post your evidence in the newsgroup. You
> >> have yet to send that evidence to "Mike" of ArtistMike.com.
> > Yes, I still would not have posted anything, but I might have emailed it to
> > you as a reply so that you could post it.
> Blah Blah Blah
in other words, you refuse to respect the rights of others to privacy.
this is obvious in other posts, but nice that you say it outright.
> > But, by then, you demonstrated
> > beyond any doubt that it was worthless to bother continuing any sort of
> > discussion with you; you even stated in no uncertain terms that you were
> > just trolling and that we were all just here "for your amusement".
> What I choose to do for my amusement is not up to YOU now. You blocked
> "ArtistMike" on the basis of FAKED messages. You screwed up. Now you are
> too pig headed to admit it ... so you reap the rewards of your
> pigheadedness.
Supernews may probably deny service to anyone they see fit. free speech
is a right, but abuse of the infrastructure of a forum may be seen as an
attempt to deny free speech to others. since none of us has more rights
than any other, noone has the right to do this, no matter their status
of "paying customer" or not. bluntly, we must obey the rules of
exercising our right to free speech, or others will want to and will
have the rights of the perceived abusers amended. now, amuse me with
your answer.
> You (SUPERNEWS) blocked a paying customer based upon FAKED MESSAGES.
I'm coming in a little late; can you post proof, please?
> Now run along and keep your nose out of things that don't concern you.
if he is supernews, ad this happened over his server, he is involved.
> > So I didn't even bother pursuing the matter. I don't know the specifics
> > of the case, and at this point, I don't care.
>
> I don't care either. Run along little boy.
oh, but I *do care. please, post specifics
> >> Too bad that is all that is left to "ArtistMike" since you have no intention
> >> of allowing him to post through your service.
> > I have no intention of bothering to try to help you, that's for sure.
> That was your attitude way back when. You are just now seeing the results
> of your attitude coming back at you.
he probably won't see anything he doesn't want to.
> Hope you enjoy it. Supernews did not take the time to check and see who was
> really posting those messages. You took the easy way out and blocked a
> paying customer based upon fake messages.
can someone, anyone *please post these fake messages, as well as a few
legitimate ones? I'd like to compare them for myself.
> You screwed up, and now you want "ArtistMIke" to kiss your ass to get back
> on your service. Tough shit.
you're not very organized, you know that?
> > If you
> > want someone to whine to, ask your ISP to contact our abuse department on
> > your behalf.
> That was already done and they were told that YOU did not block the posting
> ability of "ArtistMike".
> You attempted to pass the buck and now you are getting a free bucks worth of
> crap. Hope Supernews enjoys these messages being archived FOREVER.
another layer. interesting.
> > Our abuse manager doesn't read this group much, so he might be
> > more inclined to listen, having not seen this thread.
> I don't give a crap.
then go the fuck away
> Blah Blah Blah
> Blah Blah Blah
yep; you're definitely a troll.
in article 40786e63$0$67813$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com, Willem at
gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac wrote on 04/10/2004 3:00 PM:
> Andrew - Supernews <andrew+nonews@supernews.com> wrote
> news:slrnc7eft0.27sf.andrew+nonews@trinity.superne ws.net
>> On 2004-04-10, Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid> wrote:
>
>>> Noone's ever seen Mike use words like f-ck:
>>>> From: "Mike" <n@way.com>
>>>> Newsgroups: alt.current-events.net-abuse.spam
>>>> Subject: I will spam who the fuck I want!
>>>> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 06:08:27 -0600
>>>> Message-ID: <vvdc9k2jppik63@corp.supernews.com>
>>>> Fuck all of you I will spam any new group or email I
>>>> wish and there is nothing you can do about it.
>
>>> Looks like Supernews makes errors from badly configured
>>> filters or logs a lot. Result: falsely accused and banned
>>> paying customers.
>
>> I admit that, not being the abuse person here, I have no
>> idea why the user in question was blocked in the first
>> place. But it wasn't anything to do with the above post,
>> which is dated some months after the original block.
>
> How can you say that when Jeremy says it does:
>
> ////////////////////////////////////////////////
> in article 40687b14.825.3a0@supernews.com,
> Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at jnixon@supernews.com
> wrote on 03/29/2004 11:44 AM:
>
> These were posted via our servers, and I've verified
> that they were not forgeries. I'll not comment on them,
> I think they speak for themselves.
>
>> From: "Mike" <n@way.com>
>> Newsgroups: alt.current-events.net-abuse.spam
>> Subject: I will spam who the fuck I want!
>> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 06:08:27 -0600
>> Message-ID: <vvdc9k2jppik63@corp.supernews.com>
>> Fuck all of you I will spam any new group or email I wish
> and there is
>> nothing you can do about it.
>> Mike
>> * Logo Design *
>> Put some fun in your next logo!
>> Site at: http://www dot artistmike dot com
>> mike @ artistmike dot com
>
>> From: "Mike" <n@way.com>
>> Newsgroups: alt.stop.spamming
>> Subject: Re: Spambutcher
>> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 05:39:55 -0600
>> Message-ID: <vvfv031j8oevf9@corp.supernews.com>
>> Yes I can use this newsgroups as a write-only medium.
>> Fuck off mud puppy.
> ////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
> Jeremy from Supernews says he has VERIFIED these posts are
> not forged and that they speak for themselves. So he means
> Supernews has proof they were posted by Mike. He means they
> are related to the reason for blocking. But you from
> Supernews say something different. What is going on at
> Supernews Abuse, Andrew??
>
> WJ
They are liars at Supernews. They lie to cover their tracks. They censor
and they use forged messages to try and justify their actions. The service
sucks and they know it.
Combaticus <combaticus@combiworld.com> wrote:
> You (SUPERNEWS) blocked a paying customer based upon FAKED MESSAGES.
Even if the messages I posted were indeed faked, which I notice you didn't
claim until your little thread here started to die down, those messages
were quite clearly not why you were blocked.
> I don't care either.
Obviously, you do.
>> I have no intention of bothering to try to help you, that's for sure.
>
> That was your attitude way back when. You are just now seeing the results
> of your attitude coming back at you.
Actually, before you showed your true colors, I was inclined to suggest that
the block be removed.
(Incidentally, what you are doing in this group would be a TOSable offense
at Supernews.)
> You attempted to pass the buck and now you are getting a free bucks worth of
> crap. Hope Supernews enjoys these messages being archived FOREVER.
Yes, we do, thank you. It's always amusing to see examples of people who
think that they can change the world with incoherent rants demonstrating
a lack of communication skills as well as social skills.
> I don't give a crap.
Then why are you still here?
--
Jeremy | jnixon@supernews.com
in article 40786fd3.15b2.a6@supernews.com, Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at
jnixon@supernews.com wrote on 04/10/2004 3:15 PM:
> Combaticus <combaticus@combiworld.com> wrote:
>
>> You (SUPERNEWS) blocked a paying customer based upon FAKED MESSAGES.
>
> Even if the messages I posted were indeed faked...
They were faked and you know it. So move on crybaby.
>
>>> I have no intention of bothering to try to help you, that's for sure.
>>
>> That was your attitude way back when. You are just now seeing the results
>> of your attitude coming back at you.
>
> Actually, before you showed your true colors, I was inclined to suggest that
> the block be removed.
The "color" you see now is the result of YOU blocking someone based upon
faked messages and you screwed up. This is the color of indignation for
having a wrong done for no reason other than you were too lazy to do your
job correctly.
> (Incidentally, what you are doing in this group would be a TOSable offense
> at Supernews.)
Your opinion is irrelevant at this point. Supernews is out of the loop.
>
>> You attempted to pass the buck and now you are getting a free bucks worth of
>> crap. Hope Supernews enjoys these messages being archived FOREVER.
>
> Yes, we do, thank you. It's always amusing to see examples of people who
> think that they can change the world with incoherent rants demonstrating
> a lack of communication skills as well as social skills.
I have no desire to change Supernews. I just am enjoying YOU sharing your
attitude with everyone. How I come across is irrelevant. YOU and Supernews
is the topic at hand.
"ArtistMike" was blocked based upon you and your company's standards. Be
proud of what you have unleashed upon Usenet.
>> I don't give a crap.
>
> Then why are you still here?
To make good and sure that YOU and your company's attitude (Supernews) are
made public.
So continue on.
":^) ®
Or if you are not proud of what you have done, then keep your attitude to
yourself.
It is all up to you.
":^) ®
in article MPG.1ae238f5d97fbfd3989b3e@news.verizon.net, reverend maxwell
snort at user@domain.com wrote on 04/10/2004 3:05 PM:
>> You (SUPERNEWS) blocked a paying customer based upon FAKED MESSAGES.
>
> I'm coming in a little late; can you post proof, please?
Supernews employee posted them. Not me.
>
>> Now run along and keep your nose out of things that don't concern you.
>
> if he is supernews, ad this happened over his server, he is involved.
Not now. He is just a Supernews flunky that is trying to cover his ass.
Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:
> He means they are related to the reason for blocking.
I mean no such thing, nor did I ever say any such thing.
Those posts merely illustrate the point.
--
Jeremy | jnixon@supernews.com
In article <BC9DC45C.F2D20%combaticus@combiworld.com>,
combaticus@combiworld.com says...
> in article MPG.1ae238f5d97fbfd3989b3e@news.verizon.net, reverend maxwell
> snort at user@domain.com wrote on 04/10/2004 3:05 PM:
> >> You (SUPERNEWS) blocked a paying customer based upon FAKED MESSAGES.
> > I'm coming in a little late; can you post proof, please?
> Supernews employee posted them. Not me.
I don't give a rat's ass who posted them, where are the headers, and
legit headers for comparison.
> >> Now run along and keep your nose out of things that don't concern you.
> > if he is supernews, ad this happened over his server, he is involved.
> Not now. He is just a Supernews flunky that is trying to cover his ass.
cover his ass from what exposure? what did *he do? if he posted fakes,
he's involved. if he made a decision, he's involved. if he's answering
a complaint, he's involved.
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 02:34:56 GMT, reverend maxwell snort
<user@domain.com> got double secret probation because:
>In article <BC9DC45C.F2D20%combaticus@combiworld.com>,
>combaticus@combiworld.com says...
>> in article MPG.1ae238f5d97fbfd3989b3e@news.verizon.net, reverend maxwell
>> snort at user@domain.com wrote on 04/10/2004 3:05 PM:
>> >> You (SUPERNEWS) blocked a paying customer based upon FAKED MESSAGES.
>> > I'm coming in a little late; can you post proof, please?
>> Supernews employee posted them. Not me.
>
>I don't give a rat's ass who posted them, where are the headers, and
>legit headers for comparison.
>
>> >> Now run along and keep your nose out of things that don't concern you.
>> > if he is supernews, ad this happened over his server, he is involved.
>> Not now. He is just a Supernews flunky that is trying to cover his ass.
>
>cover his ass from what exposure? what did *he do? if he posted fakes,
>he's involved. if he made a decision, he's involved. if he's answering
>a complaint, he's involved.
Well, the real story it seems is Supernews FILTERS artistmike due to
the excessive number of posts he makes. Those posts are made simply to
post his COMMERCIAL (yet not very good) web address. They are spam by
the accepted definition. If he was actually posting something besides
"Here check my web site" type responses he would have been fine. But
he tried to use his ISPs Supernews service. He fails to understand
what was his mistake. So here we are with a 10 year old tossing a
tantrum. Thing is he has no leg. He NEVER had a supernews account. He
had an account with his ISP who purchases Supernews service. But Mikey
ain't the sharpest crayon in his graphics kit. So he blames Supernews
for his own stupidty and plays his childish little game.
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in article MPG.1ae2781bc68d9abd989b47@news.verizon.net, reverend maxwell
snort at user@domain.com wrote on 04/10/2004 7:34 PM:
> I don't give a rat's ass who posted them, where are the headers, and
> legit headers for comparison.
Do your own work.
in article 7och7098661hckloa4un5obbalh6s3ot6c@4ax.com, Aratzio at
aratzio@lalalala.com wrote on 04/10/2004 7:53 PM:
> On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 02:34:56 GMT, reverend maxwell snort
> <user@domain.com> got double secret probation because:
>
>> In article <BC9DC45C.F2D20%combaticus@combiworld.com>,
>> combaticus@combiworld.com says...
>>> in article MPG.1ae238f5d97fbfd3989b3e@news.verizon.net, reverend maxwell
>>> snort at user@domain.com wrote on 04/10/2004 3:05 PM:
>>>>> You (SUPERNEWS) blocked a paying customer based upon FAKED MESSAGES.
>>>> I'm coming in a little late; can you post proof, please?
>>> Supernews employee posted them. Not me.
>>
>> I don't give a rat's ass who posted them, where are the headers, and
>> legit headers for comparison.
>>
>>>>> Now run along and keep your nose out of things that don't concern you.
>>>> if he is supernews, ad this happened over his server, he is involved.
>>> Not now. He is just a Supernews flunky that is trying to cover his ass.
>>
>> cover his ass from what exposure? what did *he do? if he posted fakes,
>> he's involved. if he made a decision, he's involved. if he's answering
>> a complaint, he's involved.
>
> Well, the real story it seems is Supernews FILTERS artistmike due to
> the excessive number of posts he makes.
I paid for the service, I intended to use the service. After the fact they
make rules up as they go along, "Mike" posts too many messages.
hahahahaha.
They post just as many messages as I do in a day... and they have their link
in each message. But it is not ok for me to do the same, because they don't
like my "attitude" or they don't like the topics that I choose to post
about, or they don't like getting crybabies writing to them about my "mean"
messages.
Tough.
They are out of the loop now.
--
Mike
* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!
Site at: http://www.artistmike.com
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:13:29 -0700, "Mike..." <mike@artistmike.com>
wrote:
>They post just as many messages as I do in a day... and they have their link
>in each message. But it is not ok for me to do the same, because they don't
>like my "attitude" or they don't like the topics that I choose to post
>about, or they don't like getting crybabies writing to them about my "mean"
>messages.
>
>Tough.
>
>They are out of the loop now.
The way you are going, you will soon be out of the loop yourself.
J.P.
In article <BC9DBE97.F2D0D%aratzlo@lalalala.com>, aratzlo@lalalala.com
says...
> They are liars at Supernews. They lie to cover their tracks. They censor
> and they use forged messages to try and justify their actions. The service
> sucks and they know it.
yes, yes, yes, we know all about your persecution complex. now take
your medication before the green scaley monsters start sucking your
brains out again. you remember what happened last time, don't you?
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:25:13 -0700, J@P.net got double secret
probation because:
>On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:13:29 -0700, "Mike..." <mike@artistmike.com>
>wrote:
>
>>They post just as many messages as I do in a day... and they have their link
>>in each message. But it is not ok for me to do the same, because they don't
>>like my "attitude" or they don't like the topics that I choose to post
>>about, or they don't like getting crybabies writing to them about my "mean"
>>messages.
>>
>>Tough.
>>
>>They are out of the loop now.
>
>The way you are going, you will soon be out of the loop yourself.
>
>J.P.
No loop works, but it is spelled loopy when addressing ArtistMike aka
Don Quixote.
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