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  1. #16
    Riccardo Murri
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    Re: Thoughts and a possible solution on homograph attacks

    [Paul Smith, Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 10:42:47AM +0000]
    > My proposal would be:
    >
    > 1) IDNs only allowed on ccTLDs (not gTLDs). After all , the whole point of
    > IDNs is to have a domain name in the locally readable script to target
    > people within your own region/nation/etc. gTLDs are to have domains to
    > target people globally. I see no purpose (other than vanity) to having an
    > IDN in a gTLD .
    >
    > 2) IDNs should only be allowed to consist of a single character set - be
    > that Latin, Western European, Japanese, Cyrillic etc.
    >
    > 3) A ccTLD should only allow IDNs in their local character set(s). So, you
    > couldn't have a cyrillic IDN on a .us domain, and you couldn't have a greek
    > IDN on a .ru domain.
    >
    > (4) A domain registry's DRS system should take into account
    > homograph/pseudograph attacks.
    >
    > (5) Possibly any domains containing only characters which are graphically
    > equivalent to latin characters should not be allowed, but I'm not sure of
    > this one.
    >


    I would rather suggest that the string comparison function used in IDN
    takes "homograph caracters"[1] into account: just like the current DNS
    considers 'a' == 'A', the IDN DNS should consider "LATIN SMALL LETTER
    a" == "CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER a" == "CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER A" ==
    "GREEK CAPITAL LETTER A"[2], and similarly for the other homograph chars.

    A true fix in this way cannot be implemented browser-side, but rather
    in the IDN implementation; still, one can make the browser put the IDN
    names in a *canonical form* using this equivalence relation: that is,
    "CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER a" in a hostname is always sent on the wire as
    a "LATIN SMALL LETTER a".

    Riccardo


    [1] or whatever the correct term for these is...

    [2] so, the transitive closure of the (uppercase == lowercase) and the
    homograph equivalence relation implies for instance "LATIN CAPITAL
    LETTER A" == "GREEK SMAL LETTER \alpha", which are not homograph, but
    I see less harm in this than in the current IDN.

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    Re: Thoughts and a possible solution on homograph attacks

    On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Riccardo Murri wrote:

    > I would rather suggest that the string comparison function used in IDN
    > takes "homograph caracters"[1] into account: just like the current DNS
    > considers 'a' == 'A', the IDN DNS should consider "LATIN SMALL LETTER
    > a" == "CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER a" == "CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER A" ==
    > "GREEK CAPITAL LETTER A"[2], and similarly for the other homograph chars.


    But that breaks case insensitivity for Greek, for instance (other
    languages, too, I am sure).

    Consider Greek letters eta and nu.

    A upper case eta looks like an upper case Latin "H", but a lower
    case eta looks like a lower case Latin "n".

    Similarly, an uppercase nu looks like a upper case Latin "N", but a lower
    case nu looks like a lower case Latin "v".

    If such a system as you suggest is in place, and someone in Greece wants
    the site (Greek nu).gr, they would have to have control of both N.gr and
    v.gr, otherwise people who type in the wrong case would go to the wrong
    site. Now let's say a competitor comes along, and wants (Greek eta).gr.
    They can get H.gr, but n.gr is already take, since N=n.

    I suppose we could get around that by making H=n=N=v(=V=H), but that would
    get cohfusivg.




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    Re: Thoughts and a possible solution on homograph attacks

    [khockenb, Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 07:10:16PM -0500]
    > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Riccardo Murri wrote:
    >
    > > I would rather suggest that the string comparison function used in IDN
    > > takes "homograph caracters"[1] into account: just like the current DNS
    > > considers 'a' == 'A', the IDN DNS should consider "LATIN SMALL LETTER
    > > a" == "CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER a" == "CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER A" ==
    > > "GREEK CAPITAL LETTER A"[2], and similarly for the other homograph chars.

    >
    > But that breaks case insensitivity for Greek, for instance (other
    > languages, too, I am sure).
    >
    > Consider Greek letters eta and nu.
    >
    > A upper case eta looks like an upper case Latin "H", but a lower
    > case eta looks like a lower case Latin "n".
    >
    > Similarly, an uppercase nu looks like a upper case Latin "N", but a lower
    > case nu looks like a lower case Latin "v".
    >
    > If such a system as you suggest is in place, and someone in Greece wants
    > the site (Greek nu).gr, they would have to have control of both N.gr and
    > v.gr, otherwise people who type in the wrong case would go to the wrong
    > site. Now let's say a competitor comes along, and wants (Greek eta).gr.
    > They can get H.gr, but n.gr is already take, since N=n.
    >
    > I suppose we could get around that by making H=n=N=v(=V=H), but that would
    > get cohfusivg.
    >


    You're perfectly right - this equivalence relation would backfire on
    ASCII-only domains too.

    Riccardo

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    Duncan Simpson
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    Re: Thoughts and a possible solution on homograph attacks

    Homograph attacks might be a closed subject but nobody has mentioned this, so
    maybe I should. Surely it is possible for a web browser to apply some similar
    character mapping rules and react only if it finds something.

    Thus if the IDN looks like www.ebay.com on the screen the web browser will
    notice www.ebay.com exists, pop up a warning and deny access if you just click
    OK. An option safe from those who just click OK without reading anything could
    allow access to those websites.

    The best fix would be to stop the registry's granting homograph names to random
    people and revoking he existing ones with immediately effect but I do think
    this is within the power of bugtraq.


    Websites could also help by using cookies valid only for one web request, with
    the next working value computable only if you know a secret. Knowing this
    secret should require knowing the password, which should never tbe sent
    anywhere. This should make it harder to steal cookies and much more difficult
    do so without being detected.

    If I can implement the above on IE, mozilla and opera using indentical java and
    javascript then surely banks can too. There are nasty side effects involving
    the back button but these are toleratble and probably fixable. My solution was
    only designed to be better than a single fixed value and there are stronger
    protocols (for example SRP-6).




    --j2JHE1bF010628.1111252443/mail.simpson.demon.co.uk
    Content-Type: text/plain

    Duncan (-:
    "software industry, the: unique industry where selling substandard goods is
    legal and you can charge extra for fixing the problems."



  5. #20
    Nick FitzGerald
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    Re: Thoughts and a possible solution on homograph attacks

    Duncan Simpson wrote:

    > Homograph attacks might be a closed subject but nobody has mentioned thi=

    s, so
    > maybe I should. Surely it is possible for a web browser to apply some si=

    milar
    > character mapping rules and react only if it finds something.
    >
    > Thus if the IDN looks like www.ebay.com on the screen the web browser wi=

    ll
    > notice www.ebay.com exists, pop up a warning and deny access if you just=

    click
    > OK. An option safe from those who just click OK without reading anything=

    could
    > allow access to those websites.
    >
    > The best fix would be to stop the registry's granting homograph names to=

    random
    > people and revoking he existing ones with immediately effect but I do th=

    ink
    > this is within the power of bugtraq.


    In fact, it seems that the Unicode folk are thinking about these issues
    and similar solutions.

    http://unicode.org/reports/tr36/

    Draft Unicode Technical Report #36

    Security Considerations for the Implementation of Unicode and
    Related Technology

    Summary

    This document describes security considerations that are important
    to be aware of when working with Unicode, and provides specific
    recommendations for dealing with the issues that arise.

    [ToC]

    1. Introduction

    Unicode represents a very significant advance over all previous
    methods of encoding characters. For the first time, all of the
    worlds characters could be represented in a uniform manner, for the
    first time making it feasible for the vast majority of programs to
    be globalized: built to handle any language in the world.

    In many ways, the use of Unicode makes programs much more robust and
    secure. When systems need to use a hodge-podge of different charsets
    for representing characters, it was possible to take advantage of
    differences between those charsets, or in the way in which programs
    converted to and from them.

    However, because Unicode contains such a large number of characters,
    and because it incorporates the varied writing systems of the world,
    incorrect usage can expose programs or systems to possible security
    attacks. This document describes some of the security considerations
    that should be taken into account by programmers, system analysts,
    standards-developers, and users.

    We anticipate that this document will grow over time, adding
    additional sections as needed. Initially, there are two areas that
    will be discussed: canonical representation and visual spoofing. For
    more information, see also the Unicode FAQ on Security Issues.

    Each section below presents a background information on the kinds of
    problems that can occur, then a list of specific recommendations for
    avoiding the problems.

    This report discusses most of the issues raised in this thread, and
    often from a greater depth of understanding. For example, several
    posters disagreed with my suggestion that "homograph" was the wrong
    term, but seemed to only be aware of the problems that could arise from
    Latin letters that have effective equivalents in non-Latin character
    sets, (necessarily) represented by different codepoints in Unicode.
    The examples provided in TR36, although still noted by its author as
    needing further samples, provide many other cases of clearly non-
    equivalent, but visually confusable characters, especially when
    displayed at small-ish point/pixel sizes as is common in web browser
    address/location/status/etc bars.

    3. Visual Spoofing

    Visual spoofing is where a similarity in visual appearance fools a
    user, and causes him or her to take unsafe actions. This is not new
    to Unicode: it was possible to spoof simply with ASCII character:
    "inteI.com" for example, uses a capital I instead of an L. The
    infamous example here is of course "paypaI.com":

    ... Not only was "Paypai.com" very convincing, but the scam
    artist even goes one step further. He or she is apparently
    emailing PayPal customers, saying they have a large payment
    waiting for them in their account.

    The message then offers up a link, urging the recipient to claim
    the funds. But the URL that is displayed for the unwitting victim
    uses a capital "i" (I), which looks just like a lowercase "L"
    (l), in many computer fonts. ...

    =97 Beware the 'PaypaI' scam

    And the spoofs nowadays are pretty clever. One is an email that
    looks like it comes from a trusted source, like your bank. It even
    has an explicit disclaimer to not trust links in email, and directs
    you to copy text to your address bar in your browser. The text looks
    ok to you, so you won't realize that you are going to a completely
    different site, which is then set up to simulate your bank well
    enough to get your password.

    These spoofs depend on the use of visually confusable strings:

    D1. Two different strings of Unicode characters are said to be
    visually confusable when their appearance in common fonts in
    small sizes at screen resolutions is sufficiently close that
    people easily mistake one for the other.

    I'll leave the rest of TR36 to those interested in reading it (it deals
    extensively with IDN-based spoofing), and recommend it despite that I
    still disagree with the term "homograph", which TR36 uses often. All
    the definitions of "homograph" I've seen have it meaning "same spelling
    but different meaning and/or pronunciation and/or origin". My
    suggestion of "pseudograph" much better captures the point of these
    things, which is that they are (deliberately) constructed "mis-
    spellings" that falsely represent something they are not, or disguise
    that they are not what they represent themselves as (think of
    "pseudonym" as something of an analog).

    Anyway, discussion of the terminology is probably less important than
    working out some useful ameliorative actions, so I'm going to drop the
    homograph vs. pseudograph issue and suggest anyone interested read TR36
    as it makes several suggestions and recommendations, but is a work in
    progress and may be amenable to change through your input...


    Regards,

    Nick FitzGerald


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