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    Richard M. Smith
    Why are postmasters distributing the MyDoom virus?
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    Why are postmasters distributing the MyDoom virus?

    Hi,

    I was looking over the MyDoom email messages that I received today and found
    about 15 copies of the worm which came from postmasters in bounce messages.
    Some postmasters, when sending out a bounce message, include the original
    email message as an attachment. If a bounce message is for a
    MyDoom-infected message, the bounce message will sometimes include an intact
    copy of the MyDoom executable which can be run by mistake with a few mouse
    clicks.

    It looks like some postmasters are in the virus distribution business pretty
    much like the MyDoom virus itself. Perhaps these postmasters need to review
    their bounce message policies and remove all attached files from messages
    being bounced.

    Attached is a list of postmasters that appear to have sent me intact copies
    of the MyDoom virus today.

    Richard M. Smith
    http://www.ComputerBytesMan.com

    ================================================== ============

    System Administrator [postmaster@BARCODESOURCE.com]
    Mail Delivery Subsystem [MAILER-DAEMON@mailgw2.tiscali.dk]
    postmaster@COR.ORG
    Mail Delivery System [MAILER-DAEMON@mxr01.nyc02.dsl.net]
    Mail Delivery Subsystem [MAILER-DAEMON@dev.adorigin.com]
    MAILER-DAEMON [MAILER-DAEMON@swip.net]
    postmaster@walde.dk
    postmaster@att.net
    postmaster@dukerealty.com
    postmaster@sjeccd.org
    postmaster@wa-gunnet.co.jp
    Mail Delivery Subsystem [MAILER-DAEMON@SNET.Net]
    Mail Delivery Subsystem [MAILER-DAEMON@msbit.com]


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    mgotts@2roads.com
    Why are postmasters distributing the MyDoom virus?
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    Re: Why are postmasters distributing the MyDoom virus?

    > > I was looking over the MyDoom email messages that I received todayand
    found
    > > about 15 copies of the worm which came from postmasters in bounce

    messages.
    > > Some postmasters, when sending out a bounce message, include the

    original
    > > email message as an attachment. If a bounce message is for a
    > > MyDoom-infected message, the bounce message will sometimes includean

    intact
    > > copy of the MyDoom executable which can be run by mistake with a few

    mouse
    > > clicks.

    >
    > This is sometimes unavoidable. A lot of MyDoom's go to nonexistent
    > recipients, and when they are failed with a 5xx failure code, the

    sending
    > relay (quite reasonably) includes the original message in the bounce.
    >


    Not only do a lot of MyDoom's go to nonexistent recipients, they go to
    nonexistent recipients *by design*. These are intentional bounces where
    the worm is putting a simple but typically nonexistent email address in
    the "To:" and putting it's intended target address in the "From:". Then it
    uses the 5xx failures to deliver the worm via the bounce mechanism, so
    that the recipient gets an actual non-delivery report, not a faked one.

    It is a subtle distinction, but I don't recall this method of delivery
    being used previously. All those bounces/rejections you see in your
    mail-server logs for "bill@yourdomain.com", "jane@yourdomain.com",
    "john@yourdomain.com", and "sam@yourdomain.com", etc. are NOT really
    attempts to deliver the worm to those made-up addresses (though I doubt
    the worm author would mind if the addresses did exist...). They are meant
    to bounce to the *actual* intended recipient, who is listed in the "From:"

    I agree that the 5xx failures correctly bounce the complete message. But
    it is that predictable process that is being exploited by the worm author.

    -- Mark

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    Georg Schwarz
    Why are postmasters distributing the MyDoom virus?
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    Re: Why are postmasters distributing the MyDoom virus?


    > It looks like some postmasters are in the virus distribution business pretty
    > much like the MyDoom virus itself. Perhaps these postmasters need to review
    > their bounce message policies and remove all attached files from messages
    > being bounced.


    the mails probably bounced (were rejected by the target SMTP server) because
    of an invalid recipient address. It is an ordinary and IMHO still good
    practise to include the entire original mail in the bounce message.
    Those mail servers did not bother about the content of the mail, so they
    just sent it back (to the alledged return address), whether or not it
    contained any malicious attachment. I think this is exactly what they are
    supposed to do, and it is IMHO the best way they can react to the upstream
    SMTP rejecting an email.
    I think intermediate systems should not tamper with the mail, including
    scanning for virii. The worst are such systems that only remove the virus
    (which in many cases could easily be scanned for by the reciving system at
    the end), leving the rest of the mail as hard-to-filter annoying junkmail.

    Now the real issue is you, as the recipient, being in danger of executing
    any arbitrary code (with powerful abilities to your system) found in an
    email attachment by just an accidental mouse click (regardless how exactly
    that mail reached you). Such MUAs are just an invitation for abuse. It is
    here where any security measures should start. If it does not, such users
    will always remain in jeopardy.


    --
    Georg Schwarz http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
    geos@epost.de +49 177 8811442


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