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    Jay Calvert
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    Windows Firewall Has A Backdoor



    By adding a new key to the registry in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/Services/SharedAccess/Parameters/FirewallPolicy/StandardProfile/AuthorizedApplications/List you can circumvent the whole purpose of the firewall with out the users interaction or knowledge.
    Spyware / Adware manufacturer's are already do this.

    More information and a little rant at:
    http://habaneronetworks.com/viewArticle.php?ID=144


    --
    Jay Calvert
    HabaneroNetworks.com

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    Chris Wysopal
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    Re: Windows Firewall Has A Backdoor



    On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, Jay Calvert wrote:

    >
    >
    > By adding a new key to the registry in
    > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/Services/SharedAccess/Parameters/FirewallPolicy/StandardProfile/AuthorizedApplications/List
    > you can circumvent the whole purpose of the firewall with out the users
    > interaction or knowledge. Spyware / Adware manufacturer's are already
    > do this.


    This is not a backdoor or vulnerability. The default permissions on this
    key are Full Control for SYSTEM and Administrators and Read for Users.
    The Administrator should be able to configure the firewall to allow
    programs to connect outbound.

    The security problem that has created the spyware malaise on Windows is
    the default Windows installation for home users, which creates the user's
    named account in the Administrators group. When this account is used to
    browse the internet there is no protection to prevent spyware/malware from
    bypassing security mechanisms, such as the XP SP2 firewall, by exploiting
    vulnerabilities or tricking the user.

    The advent of spyware/malware using NT rootkit technology to hide from AV
    and Anti-spyware programs will force Microsoft to change to an
    installation where there are 2 accounts, one for administration and a
    low permission one for browsing the internet. This has been the standard
    for Linux and OS X for years.

    -Chris

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    Thor
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    Re: Windows Firewall Has A Backdoor

    You say (or the article does) that "If you are currently using Window's own
    firewall to protect you, either ensure that there are no unknown exceptions
    or find a better firewall."

    Finding a better firewall does absolutely nothing when, as the article
    states, "As long as the person currently logged into the computer has
    Administrative privileges, an application can easily add an entry into the
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/Services/.../FirewallPolicy/StandardProfile/AuthorizedApplications/List/
    key that will allow any application full rights to and from the computer
    without the user's interaction or knowledge."

    I've said it a million times-- any text following the words "as long as
    you're an admin" might as well be "blah, blah, blah."

    Don't run as admin. Oh, I know, here come the "some applications require
    admin" responses, but the reality is that most applications can be made to
    work perfectly well under a normal user account with the right permission
    configurations. Those that can't can easily use "RunAs."

    Yes, some users have never heard of "RunAs." Why? Because articles like
    this end with "find a better firewall" when they should end with something
    that helps educate the reader that running as Admin is dangerous, and that
    other methods exist to easily obviate exceptions.

    I have over 130 users at my company that run all manner of software, and not
    one of them has administrative permissions. Not one. And they don't even
    know it.

    That's the skinny on that.
    t





    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Jay Calvert" <jcalvert@habaneronetworks.com>
    To: <bugtraq@securityfocus.com>
    Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 12:52 PM
    Subject: Windows Firewall Has A Backdoor


    >
    >
    > By adding a new key to the registry in
    > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/Services/SharedAccess/Parameters/FirewallPolicy/StandardProfile/AuthorizedApplications/List
    > you can circumvent the whole purpose of the firewall with out the users
    > interaction or knowledge. Spyware / Adware manufacturer's are already do
    > this.
    >
    > More information and a little rant at:
    > http://habaneronetworks.com/viewArticle.php?ID=144
    >
    >
    > --
    > Jay Calvert
    > HabaneroNetworks.com
    >
    >



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    Thor Larholm
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    RE: Windows Firewall Has A Backdoor

    XPSP2 has a software firewall which like any other firewall has a list
    of exceptions, being that it is host based these exceptions are process
    based. Having an exceptions list is not a backdoor.

    There's no vulnerability or backdoor here, just intended functionality.
    You can't add keys to this registry location remotely without first
    compromising the machine and gaining Administrator privileges or
    convincing the user to infect themselves while they are Administrator.

    If you can get malicious code to run on a machine with Administrator
    privileges then naturally you can disable the XPSP2 firewall - just like
    you can disable, cripple or just plain out uninstall Norton, TrendMicro,
    ZoneAlarm, Qwik-Fix, CSA, Entercept or any other application that is
    running on the same host.=20

    If you attended the Blackhat 2004 Briefings in Las Vegas you will
    remember that Eugene Tsyrklevich had a presentation called "Attacking
    Host Intrusion Prevention Systems" in which he demonstrated on-stage how
    to completely circumvent McAfee Entercept, a behavioral host based
    protection product which tries to limit the actions of malicious code
    once it is already running on the machine.

    It will always be an uphill battle when you try to cleanup or protect
    post-compromise; the only sane thing is to try and prevent the
    compromise from happening in the first place.

    I don't like to quote Microsoft but they deserve kudos when they are
    right:

    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/arc.../security/essa
    ys/10imlaws.mspx
    10 Immutable Laws of Security
    Law #1: If a bad guy can persuade you to run his program on your
    computer, it's not your computer anymore


    Regards

    Thor Larholm
    Senior Security Researcher
    PivX Solutions
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    Newport Beach, CA 92660
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    PivX defines a new genre in Desktop Security: Proactive Threat
    Mitigation.=20
    <http://www.pivx.com/qwikfix> =20

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jay Calvert [mailto:jcalvert@habaneronetworks.com]=20
    Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:53 PM
    To: bugtraq@securityfocus.com
    Subject: Windows Firewall Has A Backdoor



    By adding a new key to the registry in
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/Services/SharedAccess/Parameters/FirewallPolic
    y/StandardProfile/AuthorizedApplications/List you can circumvent the
    whole purpose of the firewall with out the users interaction or
    knowledge. Spyware / Adware manufacturer's are already do this.

    More information and a little rant at:
    http://habaneronetworks.com/viewArticle.php?ID=3D144


    --
    Jay Calvert
    HabaneroNetworks.com

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