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    Blud Clot
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    Eudora Message Deletion Weakness

    Description: Messages thought to be deleted are still stored on the user's harddrive.

    Versions Affected: This was tested on the latest version, version 5.2.0.9. It is likely that many or all previous versions are also affected.

    Details: When a message is deleted from the trash folder in Eudora a user would expect that message to be gone. Instead the message is simply flagged to not be shown in Eudora and the message can still be read in plain text by viewing Trash.mbx. The messa
    ge is only really deleted when the user chooses to compact mailboxes.

    Solution/Workaround: Compact mailboxes whenever you delete a file that you want to be gone from the hard drive.

    Note: This is not just an issue with the trash folder, but that's where the problem is most prominent. For instance if you delete an e-mail from your inbox there's now 2 copies on your hard drive, 1 in the inbox and 1 in the trash folder.

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    Bojan Zdrnja
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    RE: Eudora Message Deletion Weakness



    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Blud Clot [mailto:bludclot@hellokitty.com]
    > Sent: 24. sijeèanj 2003 22:15
    > To: bugtraq@securityfocus.com
    > Subject: Eudora Message Deletion Weakness
    >
    >
    > Description: Messages thought to be deleted are still stored
    > on the user's harddrive.
    >
    > Versions Affected: This was tested on the latest version,
    > version 5.2.0.9. It is likely that many or all previous
    > versions are also affected.
    >
    > Details: When a message is deleted from the trash folder in
    > Eudora a user would expect that message to be gone. Instead
    > the message is simply flagged to not be shown in Eudora and
    > the message can still be read in plain text by viewing
    > Trash.mbx. The message is only really deleted when the user
    > chooses to compact mailboxes.


    This issue was discussed some time ago on the Forensics mailing list. Check
    thread about Outlook PST files:
    http://online.securityfocus.com/arch...4/2002-11-20/0

    Basically, this is a "feature". Outlook and Outlook Express have same
    problems - if you delete any message it remains in your PST file until you
    compact it.
    PST files work pretty similar as a database, so when you decide to delete
    the message, Outlook just flags it for deletion (and it won't show it on the
    screen anymore, but you can find it in PST).

    Solution is (as always) to know what you're doing - if you care about that
    (privacy etc.) you should compact every time when you decide to exit
    program.

    Also, for Outlook 2000, there is registry setting which causes it to
    completely remove deleted date when it's shut down.

    Best regards,

    Bojan Zdrnja


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