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    Todd Sabin
    Attacking EFS through cached domain logon credentials
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    Attacking EFS through cached domain logon credentials


    [This isn't exactly new, but it does come up now and then, so I
    thought it might be useful to summarize it here.]

    Recently, I stumbled upon a page on Microsoft's website,
    <URL:http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tre...y/news/efs.asp>
    which talks about possible attack(s) against EFS, by changing the
    Administrator's password. The conclusion of the article is that this
    is only possible if the user whose account is being attacked is not a
    member of a domain.

    This is not completely correct, and I wanted to clarify how an attack
    against a domain-member's EFS encrypted files can work. The threat
    model is this:

    Some corporate user has a laptop, and logs into it as a member of a
    domain, say CORP\bigshot. He has sensitive files on the laptop, and
    keeps them encrypted with EFS. The CORP network administrators are
    very diligent, and have removed any EFS recovery agent keys from the
    laptop. Nevertheless, while on the road, the user can still log in to
    the laptop as CORP\bigshot and use the encrypted files.

    Now, some bad guy steals the laptop. Can the bad guy read the
    encrypted files?

    The answer is that it depends (at least) on the strength of the user's
    password. Depending on your users and your password policy, this
    might vary from, "Trivial", to "Quite difficult".

    Bad Guy attacks as follows:

    1. Steals the laptop

    2. Uses chntpw to change the Administrator's password.

    3. Logs on as Administrator, using the password just set.

    4. Dumps the CORP\bigshot's cached logon credentials. I wrote a
    tool, hashpipe, which dumps these. (Hashpipe has not been publicly
    released, and I have no plans to release it. But if I can do this,
    plenty of other people can, too.) These cached credentials are what
    allow the user to logon without a domain controller being reachable.
    They are not the same thing as the user's password hash, but a
    function of it and the username. Nevertheless, it is enough
    information to use in cracking the user's password.

    5. Runs a dictionary attack against this "cachehash". If that
    doesn't yield the user's password, go to brute force. If the user's
    password is not particularly strong, he'll end up with the users's
    plaintext password in a few days.

    6. Logs in as CORP\bigshot, and reads all the encrypted files.

    I did a demo of this exact attack, except for step 1, at BlackHat
    2001.

    Can other SYSKEY modes help? Given this threat model, probably not
    much. If the laptop has SYSKEY set to require a boot floppy, the
    floppy is probably going to be in the laptop bag, if not right in the
    floppy drive itself, and be stolen right along with the laptop. If
    the laptop has SYSKEY set to require a boot password, then the
    attacker just has another password to crack. (Cracking a SYSKEY boot
    password is different from cracking a cached domain logon credential,
    but just as feasible.)

    In summary, if all your users have to do to access their encrypted
    files is type their password, that's all an attacker is going to have
    to do. If your users have easily crackable passwords, it doesn't
    matter if the files are encrypted with 128 bit DESX. One thing which
    may help is smart cards, but I haven't looked at that scenario, so
    can't really say one way or the other.

    Also, bear in mind that the above is just one possible attack against
    EFS.

    Maybe you've don't actually have 128 bit encryption?
    <URL:http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991804>

    Maybe the attacker was sitting next to the user on an airplane, and
    watched him type his password. The attacker wouldn't even have to
    crack the password.

    Maybe the user just closes his laptop when he's done working, doesn't
    log out or shutdown, and has set his Windows 2000 not to require a
    password when waking up. The attacker wouldn't need the password at
    all.

    --
    Todd Sabin <tsabin@optonline.net>
    BindView RAZOR Team <tsabin@razor.bindview.com>

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    John Howie
    Attacking EFS through cached domain logon credentials
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    RE: Attacking EFS through cached domain logon credentials

    Todd (and lists),

    You wrote:

    >=20
    > This is not completely correct, and I wanted to clarify how an attack
    > against a domain-member's EFS encrypted files can work. The threat
    > model is this:
    >=20


    It is important to distinguish between a weakness in EFS (there is none,
    as described here) and the risk associated with using cached logon
    credentials.

    It is not just EFS which is at risk through 'cracking' an account like
    you describe, there are so many other 'secrets' in a user's profile
    including passwords to websites remembered by IE, POP3 email account
    passwords in Outlook and Outlook Express, VPN passwords, etc.

    Truly sensitive data should not be stored on a laptop, and when it must
    use two-factor authentication such as a Smart Card (which does reduce
    the risk associated with cached logon credentials) or a SecureID token.
    If nothing else, some laptops these days come with passwords to
    lock/unlock the hard drive.

    Regards,

    John Howie CISSP MCSE
    President, Security Toolkit LLC


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    Todd Sabin
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    Re: Attacking EFS through cached domain logon credentials

    "John Howie" <JHowie@securitytoolkit.com> writes:

    > Todd (and lists),
    >
    > You wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > This is not completely correct, and I wanted to clarify how an attack
    > > against a domain-member's EFS encrypted files can work. The threat
    > > model is this:
    > >

    >
    > It is important to distinguish between a weakness in EFS (there is none,
    > as described here) and the risk associated with using cached logon
    > credentials.


    I agree there's no bug here, if that's what you mean. Whether this is
    a 'weakness', risk, vulnerability, or whatever is mainly semantics.
    Let's just say it's a property of EFS that its encryption is no
    stronger than the user's password in the scenario I outlined.

    The underlying point is that many organizations probably have password
    policies (complexity requirements and maximum password age) designed
    in part to mitigate the risk of the passwords being cracked before
    they expire (and become useless). Often, maximum age is in the
    ballpark of 45 days.

    The problem is that if someone has obtained a stolen laptop as I
    described, the user's password doesn't become useless when it expires
    unless the information in the files encrypted with EFS also becomes
    useless.

    If you want to encrypt information that has long term value, you
    probably need to either seriously reevaluate your password complexity
    requirements, put smart cards or some other hardware into the mix (as
    you mentioned), or use something other than EFS.

    --
    Todd Sabin <tsabin@optonline.net>
    BindView RAZOR Team <tsabin@razor.bindview.com>

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